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Introduction

This activity is part of my year-long project to address complaints from the dA community. January's complaint is Daily Deviations!
"I find that the DD system needs to be expanded. Why? Sadly, it has become the only major channel on this site for artists and writers to receive exposure, and the selection choices are limited. On my journal, =Flyvapnet wrote that '[i]t smacks of a good-old-boys system, wherein Deviations are considered for recognition only if they're suggested by those who have an in-crowd relationship with someone in the award-giving hierarchy'. There are great artists out there who don't have any exposure simply because they can't get DDs, and the selections are biased: for example, they almost never include parts of novels. Offering more artists this exposure would help DA with what should be its number one mission, to promote original art and literature in all its forms. "

Mystic-Cheetah

"I believe it's unfair that some Deviants are given multiple Daily Deviation awards whilst others, whose work is equally compelling, go without..."

Flyvapnet

Both of those quotes are taken from thorns journal, Complaint Challenge Phase 1.

What do some Community Volunteers have to say?
"One of my most frequent frustrations with people complaining about DDs is well...I never hear from them!  They don't like what I feature, or what other CV's are featuring but...  They're not suggesting things either!  And really.  We welcome suggestions.  Suggestions make my life infinitely easier.  I love suggestions."

Nyx-Valentine on her journal

"Suggestions? Yes please! :eager:"

Hardrockangel from comments on this article! :)

Clearly there's been some miscommunication. I have never come across a CV that didn't appreciate suggestions, no matter who they come from. I've been on this site since 2006 (previously as KneelingGlory) so I've seen my fair share of CVs. Trust me. They really do love those suggestions!

Which brings me to....

The Challenge

This month's challenge is relatively simple, and many deviants already do it. I want you to find work you feel should be awarded a Daily Deviation and suggest it to the appropriate Community Volunteer, a list of whom can be found in FAQ #18: Who selects Daily Deviations and how are they chosen?

A few tips, in case you've never suggested a DD before:
1. Send your suggestions via note. Include only one suggestion per note and title the note "DD Suggestion".
2. Only suggest deviations that you feel are worthy of a DD. Ask yourself if you would feature the piece if you were a CV.
3. Include a short paragraph explaining why you think the piece deserves a DD. Sometimes that can be the deciding factor in whether or not your suggestion is chosen.
4. If available, follow any guidelines the CV you're suggesting to has outlined. You can often find those guidelines in a box on a CV's profile or in their journal.

Once you've suggested your piece, send me a note entitled "January Challenge" with a link or thumb to the deviation you suggested. Only suggestions made in January 2012 are eligible. You may send multiple deviations in one note. All of the deviations will be featured in the results announcement for this challenge in early February.

Why Should I Do This?


Good question. I could list a lot of altruistic reasons, like giving back to the community, or helping your friends receive more exposure, or helping to disprove the myth that there's an "in-crowd" for DD suggestions. I could even mention that when your suggestion is picked it gives you more exposure.

But most people are going to do it for the points. ;)

Prizes for Participation


Each participant's name will be put into a random drawing. There are ten prizes of 50 points each available.

Multiple entries are encouraged! Your name will be added to the drawing each time you note me with a suggested deviation.

Deadline


I must receive all notes by January 31st at 11:59pm PST.

Extra Credit


Do you have a suggestion for how Daily Deviations can be improved? Write it out or mock it up and submit it to the appropriate deviantART Related > deviantART Suggestions gallery. Send me a note with the thumb or link for two entries into the drawing. You may also consider showing your suggestion to namenotrequired, the dA Related CV. He's usually pretty awesome about leaving suggestions for how to go about getting your idea into the community.

Furthermore

Any deviant who participates in all 12 challenges will have his/her name put into a drawing for a 1-Year Premium Membership to be given out at the end of the project. There may be other prizes as donations/my money allows. :D


Questions? Leave a comment!
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:iconmotleydreams:
MotleyDreams Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
So I made it within the last three days... hey, at least I made it.

I pointed anyone who reads my journal at this, hopefully they'll have time to complete it also.
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:iconliliwrites:
LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you! :) I'll be sure to include your journal in my next journal. :giggle:
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SkysongMA Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Student Writer
You know, I don't do this. And I should. Thank you for shaming me.
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:iconliliwrites:
LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome! :D At least I offer points with the shame though. :ninja:
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SkysongMA Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Student Writer
Indeed. I should be grateful. :)
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JamminJo Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Fantastic :nod: I will be participating in the DD suggestions and posting my thoughts regarding the DD topic.

Thank you,
Jo
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:iconliliwrites:
LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Thank YOU! :D I appreciate your support and the points very much. :heart:
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:iconjamminjo:
JamminJo Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Welcome :)
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JamminJo Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Welcome :)

I also comment on your main article :nod:
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:iconliliwrites:
LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I just saw it. ;) Responding in a minute.
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JamminJo Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you :)
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well...personally, I don't suggest dds because most of the artwork I look at is my friends, and though many of them are talented artists, I'm not sure if they would want a dd, given how some of them (and myself, to be honest) view dds. And I'm not going to suggest something and risk losing somebody's friendship. :shrug:

However, I do have an idea, that I don't have the skills to make into a mock up for the deviantArt Suggestions category, but perhaps having the CVs for each category listed somewhere other then hidden in the FAQs would help increase the number of suggestions? Why not do a little blurb at the top of the category's page, that states both what belongs in that category (which would hopefully decrease at least some of the miscats) and who the CVs are for that category? Or if that would be too long, have one of those little things that is like a ? or Tell Me More About (insert category) button, that when you click on it would give you that information...granted, I have no idea of how much work that would be for the coders to do.
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That's not a bad idea. I think the only part that would be difficult is dividing up the sub-categories. For instance, if you open just the photography gallery, you'll see everything in photography. If you open up the Photography > Macabre & Horror gallery, you'll see only one slice of the photography gallery. People might get confused coming across a specific type of photography just by browsing the photography gallery and suggest to ^Kaz-D what ought to be suggested to ^pullingcandy.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
(This is such a late reply...sorry, I ended up really sick and then really busy)

Yes, I agree that would be the difficult part. I can't think of any way to improve on the initial idea though...it's really an education problem; many people have trouble finding things in FAQ as well, at least in my experience....
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Nyx-Valentine Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
As a heads up, you can always request that your name not be included as the suggester :) We don't mind that :) And if we decide to not feature something for whatever reason, we don't tell the artist :)
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
(This is such a late reply. I'm so sorry, I started college, got really sick, and then really busy over the past two months. :blush:)

I'll keep that in mind for the future. :) I'm glad to know that my name wouldn't have to be the one on it...I'm always afraid of making things awkward with people I know.
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Memnalar Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
This is good stuff.
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:D That means you'll participate, riiiight?
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ChewedKandi Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I stumbled across this journal and I think it's such a breath of fresh air.

There are many many myths with the DD system which until you've taken an active role in DDs (such as being a volunteer or actively suggesting them), you don't really get to dispel them.

I only feature DDs every so often now as I'm not overseeing a gallery anymore, however I was a very active Vector CV and I can say truthfully every suggestion I received was judged purely on the art suggested and not on the suggester themselves, not even if a description was given... even more so how many DDs they've received.

You see the vector community on dA is not as big as say the Photography or the digital painting galleries... multiple DDs are not uncommon for many many artists in the vector community. However people fail to take in account when they see a person of multiple DDs are the many years and the many deviations they've gotten in their galleries. I know of people who have been here 8+ years, who have 500+ pieces of high calibre vector art in their galleries and have 5+ DDs. I still wouldn't hesitate to feature such people again.

So thank you for this journal, I'll be passing it on to others. :hug:
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
All excellent points. When I first started suggesting DDs, I'd send them to `StJoan and `SparrowSong, both professionals in the field of literature and writing. The first dozen or so were rejected because they just weren't high enough quality, and I was a bit miffed at first because I immaturely took it as a sign that my "taste" was not high enough quality for them. Then `LadyLincoln told me what they did for a living and I was like "holy...no wonder they're rejecting my stuff. It's definitely not professional quality" and I got over it.

I see people complaining because this piece was rejected or that piece was rejected and when I look at the piece from the point of view of someone who is a professional in whatever style the piece is, I can understand it. When your standards of quality are that high, you don't want to show just anything to the community. You want to show the best. And there is some of the best here on dA. It just takes a while to find it. :P
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notepadgirl Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
I think my complaint about DDs is kind of opposite to that. I don't have a problem with my suggestions being rejected (well, it's always sad XD), I have a problem with the deviation being chosen. There are stunning pieces of work, but still there are some other pieces that I'm not sure why were featured. I feel like it's not fair to the artists that really earned DDs, I don't know. Like you said, "When your standards of quality are that high, you don't want to show just anything to the community. You want to show the best. And there is some of the best here on dA." I feel they are showing just anything they find pretty, like waterdrops macros.

It could be "my taste", but I would really like an explanation from the CV saying why did they think that piece was so awesome and deserving of a DD.

And my suggestions would be less DDs per day, DDs being reviewed by other members (so they can check the description, see if it's clear, because I know some CVs are not so comfortable with English), and limit the number of DDs a user can have, as was suggested recently.

Oh my I sound so mean =(
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I think that, again, comes down to different standards. There ARE some pieces that get featured that I'm like "wtf?" But then I read a lot of other comments that are very praising of the piece, so obviously others see worth where I don't.

I always just remind myself that I am not the CV, and it is not my choice and if I want to see higher quality down in the footer, I'd best get to suggesting it. :P

Descriptions are being limited to so many characters, and each CV can only feature one DD a day now. Plus we can only get DD'ed every 6 months, instead of every 3, which will definitely improve the quality, I think. :)
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morgie39 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012
I stopped suggesting DDs when I was told that this image [link] and this one [link] weren’t of a high enough calibre to be considered for a DD.
Sure, some DDs that are chosen I love, some I don't like. I'm kinda whatever about it, if I don't like the thumb, I don't bother looking at it but for someone to give me a reason of 'this isn't good enough' is a shitty answer as far as I'm concerned.
Especially when many DDs are not chosen because of their 'quality' but for perhaps their message or sense of humour (like this one [link])
I've suggested quite a few DDs during my stint here on DA and it hasn’t gotten anyone farther ahead.
I'm not saying other people shouldn't suggest DDs, all the power to them. I'm just saying that I've become disenchanted with it and am not likely to suggest DDs in the future.

With regards to overexposed artists being the ones to benefit most from DDs (being featured as well as being the person who suggested the DD), it’s, for the most part, true. However, this is not the result of some nefarious plot cooked up by those who feature DDs, but rather a natural by product of the fact that the most popular people are most often the most talented ones. There are some artists’ galleries that I would suggest a DD for every single one of their deviations. For most regular artists though, they have a couple of ‘gems’ in their gallery. It is these pieces that they worked their asses off to produce. If these people were featured more, there wouldn’t be such a prominent issue of ‘the popular people are just getting more popular’.

Perhaps I could make a suggestion? What if this was approached like a ‘themed day’ whereby the only deviations that receive a DD on a certain day meet some kind of ‘underexposed’ criteria. For example, a certain number of pageviews or deviation views/favourites. This would at least make it appear that the DA staff cared about ‘the little guy’.

Anyway, that’s it. Interesting journal you’ve written here by the way. I’m usually hard pressed to take the time to comment on these issues.

Thanks :heart:
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notepadgirl Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
Just to comment on the links, the featured one was art inserted into school life, it had a story behind it and was really creative. Maybe it wasn't beautiful, but it sure wasn't a happy thought scribbled on a piece of paper.

Both of the links you suggested would make good DDs, in my opinion.

Thanks for the input, very reasonable!
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thorns Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012   Writer
*Kneeling-Glory is right, I am looking for entries like a 'themed day' for my Complaint Challenge contest! [link] You should make a plan, suggest it, and submit for my contest. :eager:

Or you can do something else for the contest, it's up to you. :bucktooth:
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morgie39 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
Thank you, I will see what I can come up with :heart:
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thorns Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012   Writer
Wonderful! :la:
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I think a themed day is an absolutely AMAZING idea! :eager: It is creative thinking like that that `thorns was hoping to see come from this project. How would you go about setting something like that up?

As for being told images aren't up to quality - that has happened to be numerous times, and I don't always agree with the decision, but it is also not mine to make. The CVs have their standards, I have mine. If they don't mesh, they just don't. I think that is part of why $Moonbeam13 introduced the rule that CVs have one year terms in any one gallery. Fresh blood, fresh perspective, and different suggestions accepted. On the other hand, if something is rejected by one CV, I've often just suggested it to another and found that CV loved it! So it is a bit of a guessing game as well.

And I agree that there's no plot. I've been saying that since people started complaining about it. Anymore I don't bother listening to that argument because it just seems unfair to pile all of that on the CVs who are only responsible for featuring great artwork. If they only focused on the little guy, there would be backlash from more popular artists wondering why dA is ignoring their talent. I actually think there's a pretty good balance. I usually see artists I've never seen before by looking through the DDs, and that's good enough for me.

Thank you for taking the time to leave your feedback. I appreciate the personal insight very much.
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morgie39 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
Thank you for your reply, we seem to have similar ideas on this subject :)
I am going to try and put something together for the contest hosted by `thorns thank you for suggesting it :heart:
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If you do put something together let me know and I will promote it here. :D
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morgie39 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012
Thanks!
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ebonypen Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree that there should be a greater variety of artists who receive the DD, but the thing that bugs me most is that there seems to be little variety in the DD's chosen. I've probably got no place to talk because I only suggest daily deviations once in a blue moon, but it seems like there are quite frankly a lot of images of half or fully naked women who make it on the page and not a whole lot else. I'd like to see a lot more variety. Maybe some more wallpaper, a lot more literature, and artisan crafts and a little less model photography and digital paintings... I know the majority of art submitted on dA falls under those categories, but don't you think that's all the more reason to expose other genres?
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No, I really don't think there are too many nude pieces featured. I just counted how many were featured in the first two weeks of December (45) and considering there are between 40 and 50 DDs each day, I really don't think there are too many at all. If 40 DDs are featured every day over 15 days, and 45 of those are nude art (and I didn't just count photography. Anything with nudity or scantily clad models was included), that's only 7.5% of the overall number of DDs.

So plenty of other stuff is being featured.
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ebonypen Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am not talking entirely about nudes, though. I did a journal a month or so ago about how it seems a rather disproportional amount of the Daily Deviations are images of young, beautiful women in one way or another, where in several instances I counted that a good 25-30% of DD's for a few consecutive days fell under that category. When you add up the artistic nudes, fetishes, portraits, emotional portraits, and others that have essentially similar subjects, it's apparent that there could be a little greater variety in what is featured. I'm not bashing on anyone's art here, and I have no doubt it is a majority of what is nominated (and what is even submitted to the site,) but I think it would be nice to have a little more even focus throughout subjects.

Anyway, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I do plan on participating! :w00t:
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Then I'll look forward to seeing what you suggest. :) Focus on new concepts would be nice.
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Nyx-Valentine Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
To provide some clarity for you, as the person who features "naked women". Each community volunteer is responsible for a specific gallery - in my case, artistic nude photography, and fetish photography. So, me featuring art nudes and fetish does not in fact take away from anything else being featured, because I'm not the volunteer for those galleries. There are volunteers for all of those galleries you've listed as not getting "enough" exposure, I encourage you to send in a suggestion to any of the volunteers for them! You can find a list of volunteers, and the gallery they're responsible for here.
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ebonypen Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I'm just kind of complaining to myself here. You guys do a fantastic job, and thanks for that. Sorry if I came across as a little harsh and ignorant there ^^; I understand what you mean, and I do suppose such a category of subjects could fall under several different genres of art. It just seems like in the galleries that don't necessarily have to pertain to artistic nude still have a lot of it in one way or another, (particularly in digital art & manga.)

Also, I know the lines between what is nude and what isn't is rather hazy, but it seems like there are a pretty large number of images out there that probably should have the mature content filter on but don't. This even pertains to many daily deviations I regularly see, (for example, this one that was featured yesterday [link] .) Is the mature content filter purely volunteer or is there something that can be done to enforce that a little better? Just because, as I'm sure you're aware, a significant number of the community is not only under the age of 18, but also under 16 or even 14.

Thanks! :)
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Nyx-Valentine Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
Sorry it's taken me awhile to get back to you, I've been sick.

To address your original point, nudity in art is a -very- common subject. It's pretty much a standard part of an introduction to art, and a lot of people continue on with it - it's just got such a base fascination for most people. But there are plenty of volunteers for galleries that don't have people in them, much less nudity, so I encourage you to get in touch with their volunteers to see them featured more often!

In regards to the mature content filter, the art nude, fetish, and horror photography galleries are all automatically tagged. For other galleries, it is voluntary according to the artist. Of course, as Kneeling-Glory mentioned, you can always report something to have the tag added if you think it's necessary. In regards to that specific image, that wouldn't be tagged with mature content though, as she's wearing a top.

And in regards to underage kids seeing mature content, this is just my personal opinion. I don't feel that any artist should feel obligated to tag their work to "protect the children." I feel, very strongly, that it is the job of the -parent- to protect their children. dA does make an effort to do so - the galleries of real live human people nude are automatically filtered if you're under 18, unless you lie about your age, and the mature content filter can be applied anywhere.

Really, I find the demonization of nudity to be deeply disturbing as well. We are born naked, we breastfeed, and at some point, nipples become evil things. It's a strange phenomenon, and while I feel it's obviously up to each parent to decide what is acceptable for their children, I'm not sure that happening to see a nude body is really that big a deal.

Anyways, just my thoughts.
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You can report deviations that don't have the mature content filter on when they should. FAQ #155: How do I report a deviation which I think breaks the rules?
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leyghan Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Already on it. I've done my share of suggesting in the past and it's such a good feeling when something I suggest gets picked. I intend to pimp others even harder this year. :hug:
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:la: YAY! Thank you! :heart:
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
yay! finally a positive solution to all those DD complainers out there :clap:
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:heart: :D
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HonG-t Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do not suggest DD very often. Maybe once every couple months or even less frequent.
But I have to say, the majority became DDs and it makes me happy to see these under-exposed deviants get many comments and favs and becoming so happy :) They are worth it and they should have had it a long time ago. That's what I like about DD suggestions :heart:
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It is a great feeling isn't it? :aww:
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LadyofGaerdon Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Professional Writer
So if I note you with 8 suggestion, that's eight entries, right? Even if I send them all in one note?
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yes ma'am! :nod: That's correct.
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LadyofGaerdon Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Professional Writer
Excellent! :w00t:
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MaddalinaMocanu Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I feel so fortunate to stumble upon this journal, seeing as I am a fervent DD suggester and feature maker >>> [link] Tears of Adonis was my Pre-journal News Articles - well they've been turned into journals, because, hey, let's simplify everything. And now I can't make anything because I'm unpopular.
But I can tell you for a fact that since I featured some of the deviants in this 11 length series, many have had their popularity increased. Examples: *craigos ~ivangod *Kaytara *NemosS *morgansartworld *janedj *Vetrova ~y-u-k-i-k-o ~uriska ~Andcris and many many more have been exposed substantially as a result of mine and other people's effort in presenting their artwork in News Articles... (and yes, many of these deviants have now Daily Deviations :D) and now? Now it's all futile. I strive with the urge to make features as I go a.k.a Shines of Adonis - a shadow of the former Tears of Adonis, but it's just useless. I am not exposed, how can I expect them to be in any way? I mean, I took a little trip through ALL my watchers. At least 1/3 of them have their accounts either moved, unused, abandoned for so much time and I expect the mere 60 or so active watchers that I have to help these people get exposure? It's just sad... really really sad >.<

But either way, I've strayed too far from the course of my first statement. I will be participating in your year long Challenge and yes I have suggested many.... many daily deviations and still more to come :P
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I understand how you feel. When I was !KneelingGlory I ran fairly regular feature news series for the Lit Community. With the clusterfuck that is merging of journals and deviations so that news disappeared, it is a bit more difficult for people to find stuff like that. :( But I still suggest DDs and DLDs and generally try to get people a little more exposure. I mean, even if nothing comes of it, someone seeing their work featured still makes the artist feel good at least. :aww:

I look forward to seeing your suggestions! :D
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